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Archive for June 2005

Download Mania

As I mentioned in my previous post, was hammered by a DDOS attack when we posted Eclipse 3.1. You may have noticed that the form of the attack has almost certainly inflated the number of download requests showing in the “Eclipse Download Challengecounter.

So as described in the “Eclipse 3.1 By the Numbers” article:

The download figure is a click count of download requests at, including downloads served by mirrors. Direct access to mirrors, bit torrent downloads, and other download sharing are not included.

In other words, it is the best number for download requests that we can track with the infrastructure we have.

Theoretically, we could spend a bunch of time and at least approximately determine the number of bogus hits caused by the DDOS attack. But I would personally rather just pay some extra money to my favourite charity.

Written by Mike Milinkovich

June 30, 2005 at 1:38 am

Posted in Foundation

JavaOne Roundup

So I head for SFO in the wee hours of the morning and thought it would be worth jotting down a few thoughts and observations. Here they are in more-or-less random order.

Eclipse was very well represented at JavaOne. For example, it was amazing the degree to which Eclipse showed up in the keynotes:

  • In Sun’s keynote by Jonathan Schwartz, Research in Motion provided a demo of an Eclipse-based J2ME toolkit.
  • In Oracle’s keynote by Thomas Kurian, Oracle announced its proposals to lead two additional projects at Eclipse: Java Server Faces and BPEL.
  • In BEA’s keynote by Mark Carges, Eclipse was highlighted in the tooling demos.
  • In Nokia’s keynote by Pertti Korhonen and Jon Bostrom, Eclipse was shown in several different ways. First, as the basis for Nokia’s J2ME tooling. And in what I thought was the demo of the show, they demonstrated creating and deploying a SWT/eSWT application which ran on both a Nokia 9300 and Windows. Very cool.
  • And last but not least, IBM’s keynote by Robert Leblanc mentioned Eclipse in several places and demo’d AspectJ and AJDT.

Another interesting note: Bjorn and my talk was in the top ten (#7) for all the sessions on Monday. We probably would have done better if they’d been able to count all of the people they turned away.

One of my personal highlights was quaffing a few ales at the Thirsty Bear. I had heard so many stories about the original Eclipse community gathering there some years back. Eclipse’s presence at JavaOne has certainly come a long way since then. It was great to actually see the place. My personal favourite was the Polar Bear pilsener.

I had a interesting conversation with a fellow who was a huge fan of the Eclipse Web Tools project. He has been using it since WTP M1 to build internet banking applications and is very very happy. Quote: “You have no idea how much I love your tools.” Hats off to WTP!

I met a few of the folks from NetBeans at the show. Seemed like good guys.

The Eclipse passport and t-shirt giveaway in the exhibit floor was a huge success. I think over 500 “I use Eclipse” t-shirts were handed out.

I found it amusing that Eclipse’s booth was in the far back corner of the exhibit hall. Who was in the other extreme back corner? Microsoft. Hilarious.

The only downer note that I’ve had all week at JavaOne was when I read Dan Farber’s blog post where he quoted James Gosling saying “However, modules created for NetBeans won’t be supported in Eclipse. “Where do you draw the line–should we be donating engineers to work on DB2?,” Gosling asked. “IBM is funding Eclipse 100 percent…“.

How very sad to see such nonsense from a community leader.

James, any time you want to chat about how the Eclipse Foundation and its community is supported by its over 100 member organizations, drop me a line at mike at Or at least read my previous post on Eclipse independence.

Written by Mike Milinkovich

June 30, 2005 at 12:38 am

Posted in Foundation Running Better

I just info from Denis (Eclipse webmaster) that part of the reason the site was slow was that we were hit by a DDOS attack at the same time the 3.1 release went up. Denis has dealt with that and the site is running better now.

Hopefully we can get back to the Million Download Challenge 😉

Here is the summary from Denis:

– Attacks came from about 15 unique IP’s
– Most of those IP’s belong to APNIC (Asia Pacific Network Information Centre)
– Attacks started as early as 10:00pm last night (Eastern)
– All the attacks were rapidly fetching the download clickthru script for a valid 3.1 download file, then aborting the download, thus artificially increasing the 3.1 count and generating useless connections to our site.
– Attacks were halted around 9:00am this morning by me
– Eclipse will be hosting a high-speed mirror within an hour
– website access still slow from the sheer amount of traffic, but usable

Written by Mike Milinkovich

June 29, 2005 at 1:37 pm

Posted in Foundation

And the race begins!

Well, Luis beat me to the punch, but Eclipse 3.1 is released and ready to go! We’ve doubled the bandwidth at, so hopefully the Million Download Challange will make me pay up big time to my favourite charity.

I would really like to thank the platform team for all of the hard work that went into making this release possible. The teams led by John Wiegand, Erich Gamma and Kevin Haaland truly are awesome. When you think of the scale of what they ship, the distributed nature of the team, and the fact that they’ve now hit their dates for four releases in a row it is just absolutely amazing.

Thanks to every committer and contributor who have helped make 3.1 a success!

On a JavaOne note, Bjorn and my talk at JavaOne was a lot of fun. I think this post by Donald Smith of Oracle shows that the interest in Eclipse at JavaOne remains huge.

Written by Mike Milinkovich

June 28, 2005 at 1:01 pm

Posted in Foundation

JavaOne Fun

Well dropping by the Eclipse booth this afternoon really made my day.

On the first day of the exhibit hall being open, the interest in the Eclipse Passport and the Eclipse t-shirts has been awesome. When I dropped by there was a line of at least twenty people there waiting to pick theirs up. And wandering around I’ve been bumping into lots of people wearing the Eclipse buttons from the various sponsors.

All in all a great success already! It is huge fun to see the community in action.

Hats off to the Eclipse marketing committee and the sponsoring member companies for making this such a great show of Eclipse community support.

Written by Mike Milinkovich

June 27, 2005 at 5:45 pm

Posted in Foundation

Eclipse & RIA

Hot on the heels of my last post comes some very exciting news about the use of Eclipse in the Rich Internet Application (RIA) space.

In my last post I talked about how James Governor‘s post on RCP showed that he really understands some of the potential of the Eclipse Rich Client Platform (RCP) technology.

This week’s big news is the announcement that “Macromedia plans to deliver a next-generation rich Internet application (RIA) development tool based on Eclipse.”

Tim O’Reilly
has some great things to say about this announce.

Macromedia’s announcement that their next generation enterprise Flash development tool, code-named Zorn, will be built on top of Eclipse, is a watershed moment both for Macromedia and for the open source movement. Macromedia’s choice of Eclipse speaks volumes about the impact of open source on commercial software development — and about Macromedia’s commitment to making Flash into an essential platform for next-generation internet applications.

When you add to this the fact that Eclipse also used as the tooling platform for OpenLaszlo, and it is clear that Eclipse has a very important role to play as the RIA space evolves.

If anyone has any ideas on how Eclipse could also support tooling in the Ajax area, please let us know. Maybe there’s something already going on, and I just don’t know about it?

Written by Mike Milinkovich

June 7, 2005 at 10:35 pm

Posted in Foundation

He Gets It!

It is always great when the Eclipse community works hard on communicating a new and novel idea and then runs into someone who really understands it. James Governor‘s blog post today on RCP is a great example of that.

James is focused on the potential for RCP to dramatically change the playing field for rich client applications. We are starting to see lots of examples of applications popping up all over. And developers are comparing Eclipse RCP against some alternatives that we hadn’t even thought of, such as XUL. (Note that this is not in any way meant as a slight on XUL. I just find it fascinating that a development team even considered them competitive technologies.)

So where is this going?

Amongst other interesting possibilities, Eclipse RCP has the potential to be the best friend the Linux desktop has ever had. For Linux to really take off on the desktop, it must dramatically increase its share with both ISVs and enterprise developers.

ISVs need RCP because it allows them to build native applications which run on Linux and Windows. No ISV that cares about either expense or quality is going to maintain completely different code streams for products on both Linux and Windows. RCP offers them a great technology for building truly native applications which run on multiple platforms.

Enterprise developers face a similar issue. It will take a long time for large enterprises to roll out Linux desktops in their organizations. Co-existence with the incumbent (usually Windows) for their applications must be a key part of any strategy to migrate to desktop Linux. Not only does RCP provide IT managers the ability to build and deploy multi-platform native apps, but it allows them to manage those deployed applications.

The resurgence of Apple as a client platform that really matters makes this even more interesting, as ISVs in particular would like to ideally target all three of these platforms. Which makes the RCP story better still.

But the best part of the Eclipse RCP is that it is here now and it is very real. No waiting on Longhorn or Mustang required. The new Eclipse 3.1 is bringing better tooling support and loads of new features in just a few weeks.

Written by Mike Milinkovich

June 1, 2005 at 6:35 pm

Posted in Foundation