Life at Eclipse

Musings on the Eclipse Foundation, the community and the ecosystem

GPLv3 Update

I thought I would mention a few early thoughts on the GPLv3 progress, and the impact it may have on the Eclipse community. (In other words, I am most emphatically not talking about the merits of the Free Software Foundation (FSF)’s proposed GPL revisions in general.) Janet Campbell from the staff of the Eclipse Foundation is actively involved as a member of “Committee A“, so we are participating in the revision process.

As I am sure many people have read, the GPLv3 is now out in draft form, and the Free Software Foundation has stated that EPL compatibility is a goal of theirs. Which is great news.

However, it is important to realize that when the FSF refers to “compatibility”, they mean that GPLv3 code can consume Eclipse Public License (EPL) code. Not the other way around. So it’s a one-way street and Eclipse projects will remain unable to consume GPL code. That said, the ability for GPL projects to re-distribute EPL-licensed code would be an important and positive development.

Definitely the new GPLv3 terms for dealing with patents goes a long way to making the licenses compatible. That was the one area that the FSF themselves had identified as an issue between the GPLv2 and the EPL. However, the Foundation is still doing an evaluation of compatibility, as we owe it to our own community to be completely satisfied that we agree with the FSF’s position. Early results indicate that there are still some areas that need to be worked on.

We are also looking forward to the process for revising the LGPLv3. If that license can be made compatible with the EPL to the point where LGPL code could be used within Eclipse projects, the status quo could be dramatically improved. Unfortunately, only time will tell if this will come to pass, as the revision process for the LGPL has not even started yet.

Written by Mike Milinkovich

February 8, 2006 at 5:10 pm

Posted in Foundation

Adobe Developer Summit

Now there’s a company that know how to treat its developers. 2400 hundred technical people (1200 from out of town) all in the San Jose Convention Centre. That is a non-trivial investment of time and money into team building. But if you’re going to work in a distributed environment, it is a very worthwhile investment.

I had the pleasure of speaking this morning to the Developer Summit, sharing the stage with Jeffrey McManus of Yahoo and Jeff Barr of Amazon. The topic was how to create platforms and successful ecosystems around them.

Even I was surprised at the number of people who put up their hand when I asked who’d used Eclipse. Well in excess of 80% of the people in the room. Very cool.

Even more exciting was the news that the night before the Eclipse-based Flex Builder 2.0 and Flex won the internal shoot out for coolest product, with Sho Kuwamoto running the demo. The full and open beta for the Flex technology is now available at http://labs.adobe.com.

Oops! Republished to fix the missing link to the Adobe beta site.

Written by Mike Milinkovich

February 8, 2006 at 4:51 pm

Posted in Foundation

Eclipse for the World

Perhaps it’s because of my recent trip to China, but it is becoming increasingly clear that internationalization is a very big deal for everyone in the software world. The ability to fully enable products and applications for double-byte and bi-directional languages is key.

Enter ICU4J. One look at the JDK to ICU comparison chart reveals why this library exists and is used by so many ISV’s out there today (e.g. Adobe, Apple, BEA, Cognos, Debian Linux, Gentoo Linux, IBM to name just a few).

I haven’t seen a lot of fanfare about this, but I consider including ICU4J in the Eclipse Platform for 3.2 and Callisto to be one of the biggest things going on right now in Eclipse. With Eclipse 3.2, developers are going to have a much more powerful tool for internationalizing their applications. With significantly better functionality than what is supported in the JDK. Now Java applications can be competitive those written in other programming languages in countries such as China, Japan and India. This is especially important for Eclipse and Eclipse RCP compete with Microsoft’s Vista release, as they are clearly focusing energy on ensuring strong internationalization capabilities.

But isn’t the JDK enough? Unfortunately not. From one of the documents from the ICU4J team:

“…as a platform, Java provides support for only a small set of locales (only 21 locales are officially supported, another 73 are shipped by not tested). By comparison, Windows XP SP2 supports 159 locales. In the set of 94 Java locales there is support for only one of the 22 official languages of India, one of the fastest growing economies in the world…”

ICU4J supports and ships twice as many (over 230) locales as Java. And there are other important features as well, such as support for better/faster sorting, enhanced date formats, better calendaring options and the like.

So keep an eye on development with ICU4J. It’s just recently been included in the platform builds. Next is switching the 3.2 stream over to use it, and then for the rest of the Callisto projects to make the jump. The changes are minimal, so hopefully the switch will be relatively quick and painless.

Written by Mike Milinkovich

February 3, 2006 at 1:00 pm

Posted in Foundation

Election Time

It’s February so that means its election time in the Eclipse community.

Each year, the committer community and the add-in provider community vote for their representatives on the Eclipse Board of Directors. The number of elected reps is calculated using a formula based on the number of strategic members. The formula is 1+(floor(# of strategic members) / 5)). For this year, this means we’re electing four committer reps and four add-in provider reps.

This year there is a great slate of candidates with some very interesting thoughts on how they can contribute to Eclipse by participating on the board.

I strongly encourage everyone within the Eclipse community to get involved in the election by posting questions and comments to the candidates on the eclipse.foundation newsgroup (news, http). Even if you can’t vote, I would love to see some lively threads discussed on the issues.

Written by Mike Milinkovich

February 1, 2006 at 12:27 pm

Posted in Foundation

A Comic Moment


I finally have a moment — and the picture thanks to John — to mention this truly comic moment in Beijing. As John Kellerman and I were doing our lightning tour of the Forbidden City, this class of girls came up and asked to get their picture taken with us. Near as we could figure out, they were from a small city in the interior of China and we were amongst the first foreigners they’d met. It was very near Chinese Lunar New Year when we were there last week, and many schools were doing tours during the holiday break.

The smiles on everyone’s face say it all.

Written by Mike Milinkovich

January 28, 2006 at 1:05 am

Posted in Foundation